VMan
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Post by VMan on Mar 9, 2021 17:48:38 GMT 10
Getting back from comments on 5th October. Have been running with new software upgrade one week after happening in October 2020.
Everest has been running much better. Noticed a lot of changes across the board. Fuel consumption lower, tweaks to display fixed, noticed the cruise control can now increment by 1's where before it was in 2's after 100km/hr, zoom on the map system not jittery like before etc...... Just a lot of small software fixes, but in general car running tiptop. Towed boat 1000km a couple of times and been out for a little 4WD trek, and all running OK.
Still, conclusively, don't know what the issue was for sure, but have replicated similar conditions, and all working well. Next service will be asking what the software upgrade actually did.
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Post by Bobbie on May 19, 2021 21:20:41 GMT 10
Hi, I have a 2015 Everest Ambiente which experienced loss of power whilst towing a 2000 Kg van up hills on a hot day in Feb 2021 with 116K on the clock. Got it towed but mechanics could not find any problems and no error codes. Had car serviced by Ford for its 120K maintenance schedule and no abnormalities. No problems for March and April. Then at 124K in May, with no warning the transmission failed whilst driving without a van on a coolish day. Transmission specialist determined that the torque converter failed which led to pump failure, oil loss and transmission burn out. So please note the loss of power may be a PRE-CURSOR to transmission failure. I have been told by transmission mechanics that the 6R80 transmissions are prone to torque converter failure and that as time passes the Everest's are turning up more often in workshops. Also of note are similar reports in the US and Indian markets with Ford not reporting this monumental problem and it appears not rectifying the problem in recent models. It may be prudent to install a decent transmission cooler system that can be monitored regularly as it appears that the Ford maintenance program cannot detect the problem. Good luck everyone.
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Post by Shoots on Jul 16, 2022 8:20:47 GMT 10
Hi Guys, I am a bit late to the party on this post, but thought I would reply anyway. I have the same problem with my 2019 3.2 Everest and have has since new. The problem is common across all cars with the 3.2 motor, Everest, Ranger, BT50 and even the old Transit. The issue is with fuel getting to hot, once it get over 85 degrees the car goes into ‘derate’ which is slightly different to limp mode and doesn’t show fault codes. The few people that have managed to resolve the problem have all had a new high pressure fuel pump fitted, but getting a dealer to do this is a pain full process. If you are having this issue, you will notice that it occurs when your fuel tank is 1/4 full? This is because the fuel is recycled, what isn’t used goes back into the tank. When the fuel pump is bad it runs hot, so the fuel in the tank starts to get hot. Not a problem on little trips or cold days, but if you are towing and using more fuel than normal the pump works even harder and gets even hotter, and on long trips the temp in the fuel tank get hotter and hotter. As the level of fuel in the tank drops the problem gets worse as there is less volume of liquid to dissipate the heat, then the hot pump gets sent hot fuel and situation deteriorates until your fuel reaches 85 degrees and you lose power. This normal coincides with the ambient temp display going crazy as the temp in the engine bay is rising, caused by the overheating fuel pump. As mentioned there are no fault codes, so the Ford ‘technicians’ can’t diagnose the problem and you get nowhere, I am on my there 3rd dealership now who fortunately have an actual mechanic working for them and are prepared to look into the issue, but to get Ford to come to the party, they are going to have to fit out my car with a datalogger on my next trip to prove that I have a problem. The mechanic at the dealership told me that Ford are well aware of the issue and always have been, but won’t acknowledge it. In the mean time don’t let the level in the tank drop below 1/4 full and carry 20L of fuel with you and if you get caught out between servos, put the 20L in and your problem will instantly disappear (until you get 1/4 full again). Hope this helps.
Regards Mark😃
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Post by Bandit on Nov 20, 2022 7:12:12 GMT 10
Put a after market transmission cooler on fix mine. Mine went in to limp all the time I was towing cooler fix it
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Post by Raemond on Mar 20, 2023 18:03:59 GMT 10
My 2018 Everest was towing on a 28° morning and it went into limp mode on a number of occasions between Campbelltown and Berrima, along the Hume Highway. Not a very hilly terrain for those that are familiar but has some steal climbs. I was so concerned that I actually turn back and restarted my trip at 3 am the next morning and never had an issue as we are outside temperature with 8° to 10° cooler. Ford put it down to transmission overheat. They said three factors the bull bar the temperature and towing close to maximum load. As the vehicle was purchased new from Ford with the bull bar Ford installed transmission cooler to my vehicle. During a recent trip towing 2.4 t, the vehicle did not go it slowed going up a number of hills. In this occurance the ambient temperature was read 8° Above normal, and the vehicle slowed down going up a number of hills along the same route, as mentioned above, and beyond that point. The only difference was when I reach the peak of the hill, the vehicle speed increased, as if there was nothing wrong so did not go into limp mode. I reported this to Ford and they found an error code of P0538 which is a viscous fan so they have just replaced it so will wait and see what happens from here but I have no idea what the viscous fan has to do with the ambient temperature being out especially when my engine temperature never overheated. My engine temperature during the decline in speed up a hill was sitting at 107°C my transmission temperature was sitting at 99.8, My intake temperature was sitting at 32° which was the ambient temperature. When not towing on a 32° or above day, the engined temperature will sit anywhere between 96 and 101° all of the temperatures, the same as stated above.
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Post by bad hat on Mar 29, 2023 15:44:36 GMT 10
Can I ask how you are getting the trans and engine temps? Are you measuring with a pointed thermometer or is there a reading somewhere?
I have just picked up a second hand 2020 Everest that seems to have the ambient temperature fault reported here. On the highway drive back from the dealers it reached readings of 55 degrees, which was concerning. Since then it tends towards temps between 3-10 degrees higher than reality.
Given that the ambient temperature affects the engine performance and other factors, could it explain why I’m unable to get lower than 13L per 100km fuel use, despite being a Miss Daisy on the throttle?
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Post by canackas on Jan 3, 2024 10:16:17 GMT 10
To all with the temp issue and limp mode, be extremely careful this same thing happened to me towing a 2100kg van to Warwick the car lost power on a slight incline, i had a b double pushing me as it slowed to 60ks I put my foot down and noticed a big puff of blue smoke out the back, we pulled over and engine oil was everywhere, blown motor, 8k later travelling home no caravan, in traffic 35deg heat the fucka went into limp again wouldn't change gear had to coast at 40k until it came good. We are scarred to drive it now, everywhere I look it states trans temp or fuel temp but why did the motor blow??? We have a 2015 everest dont know what to do.
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Post by Bobbie on Feb 13, 2024 12:51:27 GMT 10
Hello all... seeing if anyone has had a resolution to this ambient temperature / limp mode while towing issue. Our 2018 Everest Trend has done exactly the same - twice now. First time was whilst towing 1500kg trailer up hill on a hot day (32+) ambient temperature climbs to 65 degrees & car goes into limp mode. Engine temp did increase but not excessively. Seems when engine is working hard, ambient temp increases - but why? Is it linked to transmission or fuel temp as some are suggesting? Has anyone located the ambient temp sensor - apparently somewhere behind the front grille? Many questions, but few answers it would seem. Appreciate any feedback. Thanks...
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